Best stains for post-sint zirconia FCZ? InSync, Miyo, GC Lustre, Ivocolor?

Discussion in 'Digital Materials and Machine Tools' started by Guile, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. Guile

    Guile Active Member

    Hello friends! What stains are you using for post-sint HT FCZ? I've been told that InSync and GC Lustre are the best options, but never used them. I guess Miyo has an interested proposition, specially for anteriors. But I use FCZ most for posteriors.

    I use Empress Universal (predecessor of Ivocolor) stains and shades for AG Zolid FX multi. Most of the times, my FCZ tend to D or B Vita shades, even using just A shades. I feel they finished with a reddish color. Glaze softens it, and in the end, I have acceptable results. But I have no predictability. Other issue is that after firing, I get a more saturated color. So, I'd like to change.

    Any thoughts? Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019
  2. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    We use Lustre, but I think MiYo is better? At least a friend tell me this.

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  3. 2thm8kr

    2thm8kr ɹotɐɹʇsıuıɯqA Staff Member

    I use a mix of Empress, emax shade stain paste, Ivocolor, and GC Luster paste.
     
  4. Elab

    Elab Active Member

    upload_2019-6-10_12-41-20.jpeg Monolithic Zr with MiYo
     
  5. Guile

    Guile Active Member

    Fantastic!!!! Congrats!!!
    Do you use it for posteriors as well? Does it create a micro-layer which can affect occlusal or proximal contacts? Or is it just like stain?
     
  6. Elab

    Elab Active Member

    It's both, You have the MiYo stains for color and the Structure material for adding depth, contacts, facial anatomy etc...
    One kit for teeth one for gingival.
     
  7. Guile

    Guile Active Member

    The stains are applied as usual (brush touches the ceramic surface) or are applied like the structure paste (paste flows through brush)?

    How much do you pay for the esthetic kit (24 jars and liquid)? How long does it expire? (some ceramic expires in 20 years; others in 2 years - sometimes I just think they put a date because they have to).

    Here is U$1475; 3-years exp date

    thanks!
     

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